Mosrite Brass Rail Models Serial Numbers List (1976 - 1978, Les Paul-ish Shape) (Brass Rail Registry?)

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:57 pm

Recent Updates:

24 Feb, 2022:

Update 1:

Number 24 updated (not added,) it was put up for sale. Funny how it appeared on the 24th, too. https://reverb.com/item/51222054-mosrit ... 1976-black

Update 2:

Cleaned up the post from errors.

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Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
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E. F. Elliott (Ed Elliott) Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett (Bill Gruggett) Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010. Update, December 2021 - This guitar showed up for sale in early December, in Japan, from seller "oisii-japan." I also must say, I've seen this guitar mentioned here on the forum before. I just never updated the info about it. It appears to be an original neck with a custom double cutaway body. It also has a Moseley Vibrato Tailpiece on it and wooden pickup covers.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

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Mosrite Section:
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Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic - Thread here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2387

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 7:

1 - ? - Sold on eBay some time from 2005 - 2009. Mentioned here: viewtopic.php?p=21187#p21187
3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014. Also for sale on Reverb in 2018 also from Michigan, and it sold for $5,500 + shipping then: https://reverb.com/item/17598148-mosrit ... -made-rare
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
17 - Black - Showed up for sale on Reverb from Guitar Emporium of Louisville,
Louisville, KY on 2021 - December - 6. Guitar has Schaller Tuners (seems strange to me, I was used to seeing Grovers on these,) is missing the bicentennial plate on the back, and has some paint damage to the back. Reverb ad: https://reverb.com/item/47714278-mosrit ... ect-guitar

According to Ed Elliott (who worked with Mosrite in the 70s,) early Brass Rail Deluxe models were made from Blues Bender bodies.

May or may not have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over this routing.

May or may not be a Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

76 - Formerly owned by Jim Diamond (who also owns a Blues Bender.) According to him on Facebook, "One of my regrets is selling my Brass Rail. It had a stop tailpiece but had stereo outputs and built in distortion. It was #76." This is in contrast to the Gospel Celebrity 76, though. Then again, Adam (Dorkrockrecords, Expat Guitars) has said here (early on, in this thread) that you can't just list Brass Rails by numbers. Perhaps this list will need re-organized at a later date.

Unknown Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

? - Black. Owned by Forum Member HifiHellcat, who hasn't posted beyond his introduction post:
viewtopic.php?p=66715

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 15

2 - Red, No Zero Fret (has a Brass Nut.) Has Mosrite Humbuckers, and a Set Neck. Has something like a Black Widow-type pad on the back, but it's not exact; a bunch of other Mosrites that showed for sale in the same auction also had this type of pad. The guitar also has 2 output jacks, but it doesn't appear to have Deluxe electronics. Maybe it's wired like a Stereo 350? This guitar may or may not be a partsrite, so I may move it from this section. It showed up for auction from Tony Hunt's Collection. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/97 ... -with-case
6 - Greenburst - owned by Expat Guitars.
8 - Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat Guitars.
20 - Black. Has Gibsontype Humbuckers on it.
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby. Update, 24 Feb 2022: Put up for sale on Reverb. Pics and page saved. https://reverb.com/item/51222054-mosrit ... 1976-black
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda, who's in Germany - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5747&p=59331#p59331
65 - Burgundy. Joey Buoni's. Brass Pickguard. Has a Moseley Vibrato on it. According to Joey, this was bought by his great grandfather in the 1970s, and as far as he's aware, the Vibrato is original to the guitar. Pic saved.
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Red - sold on eBay in 2008 - https://guitarz.blogspot.com/2008/04/19 ... ustom.html
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs.
82 - Off-white - sold by Expat Guitars in 2009.
84 - Off-white - owned by Expat Guitars.
102 - Off-white (Refinish) - for sale on eBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Sunburst - owned by Expat Guitars.

Note: Ed Elliott worked on the last 20 Brass Rails in 1978.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Partly Known Numbers - 1:

8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 7:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html
? - Brown - Wenge Body, (Apparently) Maple Neck. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4916
? - Brown. Mark Moseley's. Has 3 pickups now. viewtopic.php?p=52598#p52598

Partsrites Guitars, some with Unknown Numbers - 12:

Assembled by Ed F Elliott - 11:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley vibrato, and 2 vol and 2 tone knobs; one for each pup. Was owned by forum member The Jester. He had it for sale on eBay UK in late 2009 and/or March 2010. I saved the listing and photos.
? - Black - Fretted Americana had this one. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, a Moseley Vibrato, and one volume and one tone knob. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's a Partsrite that Ed put together in 1978.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite, with Moseley Vibrato.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.


Quote from Ed: "Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen, I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine."

Source for Ed's Quote: Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Facebook Group, comments section of a question where he asked who owns Brass Rail models.

Assembled by Gene Moles - 1:

? - Celebrity Partsrite assembled by Gene Moles in the 1980s with a 1978 Brass Rail Neck. eBay Post by me, and Explanation in Reply by Adam (Dorkrockrecords.) viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1731

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In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

12 Mosrite Partsrites (11 assembled by Ed Elliott)
(most without confirmed numbers)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
15 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers (1 added this update.)
1 Mosrite Brass Rail with a partly known number
7 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models With Known Numbers
1 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe with an unknown number,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail that may have been a Deluxe
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
7 Mosrites with unknown numbers,

39 Mosrites, in Total.

We're up to 57 or 58 instruments, 23 with unknown numbers (1 being partly known.)

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:37 pm

Recent Updates:

3 Jan, 2023:

56 added. It's Black.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/mosrite ... 555123538/

24 Feb, 2022:

Update 1:

Number 24 updated (not added,) it was put up for sale. Funny how it appeared on the 24th, too. https://reverb.com/item/51222054-mosrit ... 1976-black

Update 2:

Cleaned up the post from errors.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

E. F. Elliott (Ed Elliott) Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett (Bill Gruggett) Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010. Update, December 2021 - This guitar showed up for sale in early December, in Japan, from seller "oisii-japan." I also must say, I've seen this guitar mentioned here on the forum before. I just never updated the info about it. It appears to be an original neck with a custom double cutaway body. It also has a Moseley Vibrato Tailpiece on it and wooden pickup covers.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

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Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic - Thread here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2387

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 7:

1 - ? - Sold on eBay some time from 2005 - 2009. Mentioned here: viewtopic.php?p=21187#p21187
3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014. Also for sale on Reverb in 2018 also from Michigan, and it sold for $5,500 + shipping then: https://reverb.com/item/17598148-mosrit ... -made-rare
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
17 - Black - Showed up for sale on Reverb from Guitar Emporium of Louisville,
Louisville, KY on 2021 - December - 6. Guitar has Schaller Tuners (seems strange to me, I was used to seeing Grovers on these,) is missing the bicentennial plate on the back, and has some paint damage to the back. Reverb ad: https://reverb.com/item/47714278-mosrit ... ect-guitar

According to Ed Elliott (who worked with Mosrite in the 70s,) early Brass Rail Deluxe models were made from Blues Bender bodies.

May or may not have been a Deluxe - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over the routing.

May or may not be a Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

76 - Formerly owned by Jim Diamond (who also owns a Blues Bender.) According to him on Facebook, "One of my regrets is selling my Brass Rail. It had a stop tailpiece but had stereo outputs and built in distortion. It was #76." This is in contrast to the Gospel Celebrity 76, though. Then again, Adam (Dorkrockrecords, Expat Guitars) has said here (early on, in this thread) that you can't just list Brass Rails by numbers. Perhaps this list will need re-organized at a later date.

Unknown Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

? - Black. Owned by Forum Member HifiHellcat, who hasn't posted beyond his introduction post:
viewtopic.php?p=66715

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 16

2 - Red, No Zero Fret (has a Brass Nut.) Has Mosrite Humbuckers, and a Set Neck. Has something like a Black Widow-type pad on the back, but it's not exact; a bunch of other Mosrites that showed for sale in the same auction also had this type of pad. The guitar also has 2 output jacks, but it doesn't appear to have Deluxe electronics. Maybe it's wired like a Stereo 350? This guitar may or may not be a partsrite, so I may move it from this section. It showed up for auction from Tony Hunt's Collection. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/97 ... -with-case
6 - Greenburst - owned by Expat Guitars.
8 - Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat Guitars.
20 - Black. Has Gibson type Humbuckers on it.
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby. Update, 24 Feb 2022: Put up for sale on Reverb. Pics and page saved. https://reverb.com/item/51222054-mosrit ... 1976-black
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda, who's in Germany - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5747&p=59331#p59331
56 - Black. Has Mosrite Humbuckers. Owned by Alan Blair Jr. - Pics saved. - https://www.facebook.com/groups/mosrite ... 555123538/
65 - Burgundy. Joey Buoni's. Brass Pickguard. Has a Moseley Vibrato on it. According to Joey, this was bought by his great grandfather in the 1970s, and as far as he's aware, the Vibrato is original to the guitar. Pic saved.
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Red - sold on eBay in 2008 - https://guitarz.blogspot.com/2008/04/19 ... ustom.html
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs.
82 - Off-white - sold by Expat Guitars in 2009.
84 - Off-white - owned by Expat Guitars.
102 - Off-white (Refinish) - for sale on eBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Sunburst - owned by Expat Guitars.

Note: Ed Elliott worked on the last 20 Brass Rails in 1978.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Partly Known Numbers - 1:

8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 7:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html
? - Brown - Wenge Body, (Apparently) Maple Neck. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4916
? - Brown. Mark Moseley's. Has 3 pickups now. viewtopic.php?p=52598#p52598

Partsrites Guitars, some with Unknown Numbers - 12:

Assembled by Ed F Elliott - 11:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley vibrato, and 2 vol and 2 tone knobs; one for each pup. Was owned by forum member The Jester. He had it for sale on eBay UK in late 2009 and/or March 2010. I saved the listing and photos.
? - Black - Fretted Americana had this one. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, a Moseley Vibrato, and one volume and one tone knob. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's a Partsrite that Ed put together in 1978.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite, with Moseley Vibrato.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.


Quote from Ed: "Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen, I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine."

Source for Ed's Quote: Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Facebook Group, comments section of a question where he asked who owns Brass Rail models.

Assembled by Gene Moles - 1:

? - Celebrity Partsrite assembled by Gene Moles in the 1980s with a 1978 Brass Rail Neck. eBay Post by me, and Explanation in Reply by Adam (Dorkrockrecords.) viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1731

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

12 Mosrite Partsrites (11 assembled by Ed Elliott)
(most without confirmed numbers)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
16 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers (1 added this update.)
1 Mosrite Brass Rail with a partly known number
7 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models With Known Numbers
1 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe with an unknown number,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail that may have been a Deluxe
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
7 Mosrites with unknown numbers,

40 Mosrites, in Total.

We're up to 58 or 59 instruments, 23 with unknown numbers (1 being partly known.)

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:32 pm

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Recent Updates:
==============

9 April 2023:

A1 (Red Burst) Added. This one has a mistake plate by the tailpiece, and is missing its knobs.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295619651489?h ... ondition=4

3 Jan, 2023:

56 added. It's Black.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/mosrite ... 555123538/

24 Feb, 2022:

Update 1:

Number 24 updated (not added,) it was put up for sale. Funny how it appeared on the 24th, too. https://reverb.com/item/51222054-mosrit ... 1976-black

Update 2:

Cleaned up the post from errors.

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Mosrite Section:
===============

Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic - Thread here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2387

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 7:

1 - ? - Sold on eBay some time from 2005 - 2009. Mentioned here: viewtopic.php?p=21187#p21187
3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014. Also for sale on Reverb in 2018 also from Michigan, and it sold for $5,500 + shipping then: https://reverb.com/item/17598148-mosrit ... -made-rare
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
17 - Black - Showed up for sale on Reverb from Guitar Emporium of Louisville,
Louisville, KY on 2021 - December - 6. Guitar has Schaller Tuners (seems strange to me, I was used to seeing Grovers on these,) is missing the bicentennial plate on the back, and has some paint damage to the back. Reverb ad: https://reverb.com/item/47714278-mosrit ... ect-guitar

According to Ed Elliott (who worked with Mosrite in the 70s,) early Brass Rail Deluxe models were made from Blues Bender bodies.

May or may not have been a Deluxe - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over the routing.

May or may not be a Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

76 - Formerly owned by Jim Diamond (who also owns a Blues Bender.) According to him on Facebook, "One of my regrets is selling my Brass Rail. It had a stop tailpiece but had stereo outputs and built in distortion. It was #76." This is in contrast to the Gospel Celebrity 76, though. Then again, Adam (Dorkrockrecords, Expat Guitars) has said here (early on, in this thread) that you can't just list Brass Rails by numbers. Perhaps this list will need re-organized at a later date.

Unknown Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

? - Black. Owned by Forum Member HifiHellcat, who hasn't posted beyond his introduction post:
viewtopic.php?p=66715

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 17

2 - Red, No Zero Fret (has a Brass Nut.) Has Mosrite Humbuckers, and a Set Neck. Has something like a Black Widow-type pad on the back, but it's not exact; a bunch of other Mosrites that showed for sale in the same auction also had this type of pad. The guitar also has 2 output jacks, but it doesn't appear to have Deluxe electronics. Maybe it's wired like a Stereo 350? This guitar may or may not be a partsrite, so I may move it from this section. It showed up for auction from Tony Hunt's Collection. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/97 ... -with-case
6 - Greenburst - owned by Expat Guitars.
8 - Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat Guitars.
20 - Black. Has Gibson type Humbuckers on it.
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby. Update, 24 Feb 2022: Put up for sale on Reverb. Pics and page saved. https://reverb.com/item/51222054-mosrit ... 1976-black
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda, who's in Germany - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5747&p=59331#p59331
56 - Black. Has Mosrite Humbuckers. Owned by Alan Blair Jr. - Pics saved. - https://www.facebook.com/groups/mosrite ... 555123538/
65 - Burgundy. Joey Buoni's. Brass Pickguard. Has a Moseley Vibrato on it. According to Joey, this was bought by his great grandfather in the 1970s, and as far as he's aware, the Vibrato is original to the guitar. Pic saved.
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Red - sold on eBay in 2008 - https://guitarz.blogspot.com/2008/04/19 ... ustom.html
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs.
82 - Off-white - sold by Expat Guitars in 2009.
84 - Off-white - owned by Expat Guitars.
102 - Off-white (Refinish) - for sale on eBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Sunburst - owned by Expat Guitars.

Odd Numbers:

A1 - Red Burst. Has a mistake plate by the tailpiece. Missing knobs. Showed up on eBay in early April 2023. Pics and page saved.

Note: Ed Elliott worked on the last 20 Brass Rails in 1978.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Partly Known Numbers - 1:

8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 7:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html
? - Brown - Wenge Body, (Apparently) Maple Neck. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4916
? - Brown. Mark Moseley's. Has 3 pickups now. viewtopic.php?p=52598#p52598

Partsrites Guitars, some with Unknown Numbers - 12:

Assembled by Ed F Elliott - 11:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley vibrato, and 2 vol and 2 tone knobs; one for each pup. Was owned by forum member The Jester. He had it for sale on eBay UK in late 2009 and/or March 2010. I saved the listing and photos.
? - Black - Fretted Americana had this one. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, a Moseley Vibrato, and one volume and one tone knob. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's a Partsrite that Ed put together in 1978.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite, with Moseley Vibrato.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.


Quote from Ed: "Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen, I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine."

Source for Ed's Quote: Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Facebook Group, comments section of a question where he asked who owns Brass Rail models.

Assembled by Gene Moles - 1:

? - Celebrity Partsrite assembled by Gene Moles in the 1980s with a 1978 Brass Rail Neck. eBay Post by me, and Explanation in Reply by Adam (Dorkrockrecords.) viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1731

=================================================
Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
=================================================

E. F. Elliott (Ed Elliott) Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett (Bill Gruggett) Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010. Update, December 2021 - This guitar showed up for sale in early December, in Japan, from seller "oisii-japan." I also must say, I've seen this guitar mentioned here on the forum before. I just never updated the info about it. It appears to be an original neck with a custom double cutaway body. It also has a Moseley Vibrato Tailpiece on it and wooden pickup covers.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

===============

In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

12 Mosrite Partsrites (11 assembled by Ed Elliott)
(most without confirmed numbers)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
17 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail with a partly known number,
7 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models With Known Numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe with an unknown number,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail that may have been a Deluxe,
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
7 Mosrites with unknown numbers.

41 Mosrites, in Total.

We're up to 59 or 60 instruments, 23 with unknown numbers (1 being partly known.)

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:42 pm

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Recent Updates:
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6 July 2023:

Found A1 again on Facebook, with more photos. I don't have a direct link to the exact post, but it was on the 4th of May, 2023, and it's at this page:

https://www.facebook.com/roadmanguitars

9 April 2023:

A1 (Red Burst) Added. This one has a mistake plate by the tailpiece, and is missing its knobs.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295619651489?h ... ondition=4

3 Jan, 2023:

56 added. It's Black.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/mosrite ... 555123538/

===============
Mosrite Section:
===============

Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic - Thread here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2387

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 7:

1 - ? - Sold on eBay some time from 2005 - 2009. Mentioned here: viewtopic.php?p=21187#p21187
3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014. Also for sale on Reverb in 2018 also from Michigan, and it sold for $5,500 + shipping then: https://reverb.com/item/17598148-mosrit ... -made-rare
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
17 - Black - Showed up for sale on Reverb from Guitar Emporium of Louisville,
Louisville, KY on 2021 - December - 6. Guitar has Schaller Tuners (seems strange to me, I was used to seeing Grovers on these,) is missing the bicentennial plate on the back, and has some paint damage to the back. Reverb ad: https://reverb.com/item/47714278-mosrit ... ect-guitar

According to Ed Elliott (who worked with Mosrite in the 70s,) early Brass Rail Deluxe models were made from Blues Bender bodies.

May or may not have been a Deluxe - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over the routing.

May or may not be a Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

76 - Formerly owned by Jim Diamond (who also owns a Blues Bender.) According to him on Facebook, "One of my regrets is selling my Brass Rail. It had a stop tailpiece but had stereo outputs and built in distortion. It was #76." This is in contrast to the Gospel Celebrity 76, though. Then again, Adam (Dorkrockrecords, Expat Guitars) has said here (early on, in this thread) that you can't just list Brass Rails by numbers. Perhaps this list will need re-organized at a later date.

Unknown Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

? - Black. Owned by Forum Member HifiHellcat, who hasn't posted beyond his introduction post:
viewtopic.php?p=66715

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 17

2 - Red, No Zero Fret (has a Brass Nut.) Has Mosrite Humbuckers, and a Set Neck. Has something like a Black Widow-type pad on the back, but it's not exact; a bunch of other Mosrites that showed for sale in the same auction also had this type of pad. The guitar also has 2 output jacks, but it doesn't appear to have Deluxe electronics. Maybe it's wired like a Stereo 350? This guitar may or may not be a partsrite, so I may move it from this section. It showed up for auction from Tony Hunt's Collection. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/97 ... -with-case
6 - Greenburst - owned by Expat Guitars.
8 - Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat Guitars.
20 - Black. Has Gibson type Humbuckers on it.
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby. Update, 24 Feb 2022: Put up for sale on Reverb. Pics and page saved. https://reverb.com/item/51222054-mosrit ... 1976-black
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda, who's in Germany - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5747&p=59331#p59331
56 - Black. Has Mosrite Humbuckers. Owned by Alan Blair Jr. - Pics saved. - https://www.facebook.com/groups/mosrite ... 555123538/
65 - Burgundy. Joey Buoni's. Brass Pickguard. Has a Moseley Vibrato on it. According to Joey, this was bought by his great grandfather in the 1970s, and as far as he's aware, the Vibrato is original to the guitar. Pic saved.
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Red - sold on eBay in 2008 - https://guitarz.blogspot.com/2008/04/19 ... ustom.html
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs.
82 - Off-white - sold by Expat Guitars in 2009.
84 - Off-white - owned by Expat Guitars.
102 - Off-white (Refinish) - for sale on eBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Sunburst - owned by Expat Guitars.

Odd Numbers:

A1 - Red Burst. Has a mistake plate by the tailpiece. Missing knobs. Showed up on eBay in early April 2023. Pics and page saved. --- Update, 6 July 2023: FOund more pics at F.B. page "James Roadman - Musical Instrument Repair and Restoration" here, but I have no direct link. Post was on 6 May 2023: https://www.facebook.com/roadmanguitars

Note: Ed Elliott worked on the last 20 Brass Rails in 1978.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Partly Known Numbers - 1:

8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 7:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html
? - Brown - Wenge Body, (Apparently) Maple Neck. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4916
? - Brown. Mark Moseley's. Has 3 pickups now. viewtopic.php?p=52598#p52598

Partsrites Guitars, some with Unknown Numbers - 12:

Assembled by Ed F Elliott - 11:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley vibrato, and 2 vol and 2 tone knobs; one for each pup. Was owned by forum member The Jester. He had it for sale on eBay UK in late 2009 and/or March 2010. I saved the listing and photos.
? - Black - Fretted Americana had this one. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, a Moseley Vibrato, and one volume and one tone knob. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's a Partsrite that Ed put together in 1978.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite, with Moseley Vibrato.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.


Quote from Ed: "Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen, I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine."

Source for Ed's Quote: Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Facebook Group, comments section of a question where he asked who owns Brass Rail models.

Assembled by Gene Moles - 1:

? - Celebrity Partsrite assembled by Gene Moles in the 1980s with a 1978 Brass Rail Neck. eBay Post by me, and Explanation in Reply by Adam (Dorkrockrecords.) viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1731

=================================================
Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
=================================================

E. F. Elliott (Ed Elliott) Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett (Bill Gruggett) Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010. Update, December 2021 - This guitar showed up for sale in early December, in Japan, from seller "oisii-japan." I also must say, I've seen this guitar mentioned here on the forum before. I just never updated the info about it. It appears to be an original neck with a custom double cutaway body. It also has a Moseley Vibrato Tailpiece on it and wooden pickup covers.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

===============

In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

12 Mosrite Partsrites (11 assembled by Ed Elliott)
(most without confirmed numbers)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
17 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail with a partly known number,
7 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models With Known Numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe with an unknown number,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail that may have been a Deluxe,
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
7 Mosrites with unknown numbers.

41 Mosrites, in Total.

We're up to 59 or 60 instruments, 23 with unknown numbers (1 being partly known.)

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:43 pm

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Recent Updates:
==============

13 September, 2023:

Update to 22: it's Red, and it has a Moseley Vibrato Tailpiece.

6 July 2023:

Found A1 again on Facebook, with more photos. I don't have a direct link to the exact post, but it was on the 4th of May, 2023, and it's at this page:

https://www.facebook.com/roadmanguitars

9 April 2023:

A1 (Red Burst) Added. This one has a mistake plate by the tailpiece, and is missing its knobs.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295619651489?h ... ondition=4

===============
Mosrite Section:
===============

Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic - Thread here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2387

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 7:

1 - ? - Sold on eBay some time from 2005 - 2009. Mentioned here: viewtopic.php?p=21187#p21187
3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014. Also for sale on Reverb in 2018 also from Michigan, and it sold for $5,500 + shipping then: https://reverb.com/item/17598148-mosrit ... -made-rare
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
17 - Black - Showed up for sale on Reverb from Guitar Emporium of Louisville,
Louisville, KY on 2021 - December - 6. Guitar has Schaller Tuners (seems strange to me, I was used to seeing Grovers on these,) is missing the bicentennial plate on the back, and has some paint damage to the back. Reverb ad: https://reverb.com/item/47714278-mosrit ... ect-guitar

According to Ed Elliott (who worked with Mosrite in the 70s,) early Brass Rail Deluxe models were made from Blues Bender bodies.

May or may not have been a Deluxe - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over the routing.

May or may not be a Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

76 - Formerly owned by Jim Diamond (who also owns a Blues Bender.) According to him on Facebook, "One of my regrets is selling my Brass Rail. It had a stop tailpiece but had stereo outputs and built in distortion. It was #76." This is in contrast to the Gospel Celebrity 76, though. Then again, Adam (Dorkrockrecords, Expat Guitars) has said here (early on, in this thread) that you can't just list Brass Rails by numbers. Perhaps this list will need re-organized at a later date.

Unknown Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

? - Black. Owned by Forum Member HifiHellcat, who hasn't posted beyond his introduction post:
viewtopic.php?p=66715

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 17

2 - Red, No Zero Fret (has a Brass Nut.) Has Mosrite Humbuckers, and a Set Neck. Has something like a Black Widow-type pad on the back, but it's not exact; a bunch of other Mosrites that showed for sale in the same auction also had this type of pad. The guitar also has 2 output jacks, but it doesn't appear to have Deluxe electronics. Maybe it's wired like a Stereo 350? This guitar may or may not be a partsrite, so I may move it from this section. It showed up for auction from Tony Hunt's Collection. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/97 ... -with-case
6 - Greenburst - owned by Expat Guitars.
8 - Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat Guitars.
20 - Black. Has Gibson type Humbuckers on it.
22 - Red (Refin?) with Moseley Vibrato Tailpiece, and a tortoiseshell pickguard that looks like it may be newer than the guitar's year. Previous information before my Sept. 23 2023 update is that it was for sale in 2010, and was called "a Gene Moles Custom."
24 - Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby. Update, 24 Feb 2022: Put up for sale on Reverb. Pics and page saved. https://reverb.com/item/51222054-mosrit ... 1976-black
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda, who's in Germany - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5747&p=59331#p59331
56 - Black. Has Mosrite Humbuckers. Owned by Alan Blair Jr. - Pics saved. - https://www.facebook.com/groups/mosrite ... 555123538/
65 - Burgundy. Joey Buoni's. Brass Pickguard. Has a Moseley Vibrato on it. According to Joey, this was bought by his great grandfather in the 1970s, and as far as he's aware, the Vibrato is original to the guitar. Pic saved.
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Red - sold on eBay in 2008 - https://guitarz.blogspot.com/2008/04/19 ... ustom.html
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs.
82 - Off-white - sold by Expat Guitars in 2009.
84 - Off-white - owned by Expat Guitars.
102 - Off-white (Refinish) - for sale on eBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Sunburst - owned by Expat Guitars.

Odd Numbers:

A1 - Red Burst. Has a mistake plate by the tailpiece. Missing knobs. Showed up on eBay in early April 2023. Pics and page saved. --- Update, 6 July 2023: FOund more pics at F.B. page "James Roadman - Musical Instrument Repair and Restoration" here, but I have no direct link. Post was on 6 May 2023: https://www.facebook.com/roadmanguitars

Note: Ed Elliott worked on the last 20 Brass Rails in 1978.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Partly Known Numbers - 1:

8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 7:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html
? - Brown - Wenge Body, (Apparently) Maple Neck. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4916
? - Brown. Mark Moseley's. Has 3 pickups now. viewtopic.php?p=52598#p52598

Partsrites Guitars, some with Unknown Numbers - 12:

Assembled by Ed F Elliott - 11:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley vibrato, and 2 vol and 2 tone knobs; one for each pup. Was owned by forum member The Jester. He had it for sale on eBay UK in late 2009 and/or March 2010. I saved the listing and photos.
? - Black - Fretted Americana had this one. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, a Moseley Vibrato, and one volume and one tone knob. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's a Partsrite that Ed put together in 1978.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite, with Moseley Vibrato.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.


Quote from Ed: "Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen, I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine."

Source for Ed's Quote: Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Facebook Group, comments section of a question where he asked who owns Brass Rail models.

Assembled by Gene Moles - 1:

? - Celebrity Partsrite assembled by Gene Moles in the 1980s with a 1978 Brass Rail Neck. eBay Post by me, and Explanation in Reply by Adam (Dorkrockrecords.) viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1731

=================================================
Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
=================================================

E. F. Elliott (Ed Elliott) Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett (Bill Gruggett) Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010. Update, December 2021 - This guitar showed up for sale in early December, in Japan, from seller "oisii-japan." I also must say, I've seen this guitar mentioned here on the forum before. I just never updated the info about it. It appears to be an original neck with a custom double cutaway body. It also has a Moseley Vibrato Tailpiece on it and wooden pickup covers.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

===============

In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

12 Mosrite Partsrites (11 assembled by Ed Elliott)
(most without confirmed numbers)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
17 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail with a partly known number,
7 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models With Known Numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe with an unknown number,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail that may have been a Deluxe,
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
7 Mosrites with unknown numbers.

41 Mosrites, in Total.

We're up to 59 or 60 instruments, 23 with unknown numbers (1 being partly known.)

- Austin[/quote]
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:47 pm

==============
Recent Updates:
==============

17 November, 2023:

1976 model 55 (Black) surfaced on Reverb. The ad says that this was once owned by Tom Brumley.
https://reverb.com/item/76006922-mosrit ... 1976-black

27 September, 2023:

22 is indeed a Gene Moles build. It was later worked on by Bob Shade.

A link to the Reverb ad for 22 is here: https://reverb.com/item/73424012-mosrit ... tallic-red

13 September, 2023:

Update to 22: it's Red, and it has a Moseley Vibrato Tailpiece.

6 July 2023:

Found A1 again on Facebook, with more photos. I don't have a direct link to the exact post, but it was on the 4th of May, 2023, and it's at this page:

https://www.facebook.com/roadmanguitars

===============
Mosrite Section:
===============

Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic - Thread here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2387

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 7:

1 - ? - Sold on eBay some time from 2005 - 2009. Mentioned here: viewtopic.php?p=21187#p21187
3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014. Also for sale on Reverb in 2018 also from Michigan, and it sold for $5,500 + shipping then: https://reverb.com/item/17598148-mosrit ... -made-rare
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
17 - Black - Showed up for sale on Reverb from Guitar Emporium of Louisville,
Louisville, KY on 2021 - December - 6. Guitar has Schaller Tuners (seems strange to me, I was used to seeing Grovers on these,) is missing the bicentennial plate on the back, and has some paint damage to the back. Reverb ad: https://reverb.com/item/47714278-mosrit ... ect-guitar

According to Ed Elliott (who worked with Mosrite in the 70s,) early Brass Rail Deluxe models were made from Blues Bender bodies.

May or may not have been a Deluxe - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over the routing.

May or may not be a Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

76 - Formerly owned by Jim Diamond (who also owns a Blues Bender.) According to him on Facebook, "One of my regrets is selling my Brass Rail. It had a stop tailpiece but had stereo outputs and built in distortion. It was #76." This is in contrast to the Gospel Celebrity 76, though. Then again, Adam (Dorkrockrecords, Expat Guitars) has said here (early on, in this thread) that you can't just list Brass Rails by numbers. Perhaps this list will need re-organized at a later date.

Unknown Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

? - Black. Owned by Forum Member HifiHellcat, who hasn't posted beyond his introduction post:
viewtopic.php?p=66715

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 18

2 - Red, No Zero Fret (has a Brass Nut.) Has Mosrite Humbuckers, and a Set Neck. Has something like a Black Widow-type pad on the back, but it's not exact; a bunch of other Mosrites that showed for sale in the same auction also had this type of pad. The guitar also has 2 output jacks, but it doesn't appear to have Deluxe electronics. Maybe it's wired like a Stereo 350? This guitar may or may not be a partsrite, so I may move it from this section. It showed up for auction from Tony Hunt's Collection. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/97 ... -with-case
6 - Greenburst - owned by Expat Guitars.
8 - Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat Guitars.
20 - Black. Has Gibson type Humbuckers on it.
22 - Red (Refin?) with Moseley Vibrato Tailpiece, and a tortoiseshell pickguard that looks like it may be newer than the guitar's year. Gene Moles custom that was later worked on by Bob Shade. For sale in 2023, and was also for sale in 2010. https://reverb.com/item/73424012-mosrit ... tallic-red
24 - Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby. Update, 24 Feb 2022: Put up for sale on Reverb. Pics and page saved. https://reverb.com/item/51222054-mosrit ... 1976-black
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda, who's in Germany - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5747&p=59331#p59331
55 - Black. Ad says that this was once owned by Tom Brumley. Surfaced on Reverb on 17 November, 2023. https://reverb.com/item/76006922-mosrit ... 1976-black
56 - Black. Has Mosrite Humbuckers. Owned by Alan Blair Jr. - Pics saved. - https://www.facebook.com/groups/mosrite ... 555123538/
65 - Burgundy. Joey Buoni's. Brass Pickguard. Has a Moseley Vibrato on it. According to Joey, this was bought by his great grandfather in the 1970s, and as far as he's aware, the Vibrato is original to the guitar. Pic saved.
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Red - sold on eBay in 2008 - https://guitarz.blogspot.com/2008/04/19 ... ustom.html
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs.
82 - Off-white - sold by Expat Guitars in 2009.
84 - Off-white - owned by Expat Guitars.
102 - Off-white (Refinish) - for sale on eBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Sunburst - owned by Expat Guitars.

Odd Numbers:

A1 - Red Burst. Has a mistake plate by the tailpiece. Missing knobs. Showed up on eBay in early April 2023. Pics and page saved. --- Update, 6 July 2023: FOund more pics at F.B. page "James Roadman - Musical Instrument Repair and Restoration" here, but I have no direct link. Post was on 6 May 2023: https://www.facebook.com/roadmanguitars

Note: Ed Elliott worked on the last 20 Brass Rails in 1978.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Partly Known Numbers - 1:

8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 7:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html
? - Brown - Wenge Body, (Apparently) Maple Neck. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4916
? - Brown. Mark Moseley's. Has 3 pickups now. viewtopic.php?p=52598#p52598

Partsrites Guitars, some with Unknown Numbers - 12:

Assembled by Ed F Elliott - 11:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley vibrato, and 2 vol and 2 tone knobs; one for each pup. Was owned by forum member The Jester. He had it for sale on eBay UK in late 2009 and/or March 2010. I saved the listing and photos.
? - Black - Fretted Americana had this one. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, a Moseley Vibrato, and one volume and one tone knob. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's a Partsrite that Ed put together in 1978.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite, with Moseley Vibrato.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.


Quote from Ed: "Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen, I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine."

Source for Ed's Quote: Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Facebook Group, comments section of a question where he asked who owns Brass Rail models.

Assembled by Gene Moles - 1:

? - Celebrity Partsrite assembled by Gene Moles in the 1980s with a 1978 Brass Rail Neck. eBay Post by me, and Explanation in Reply by Adam (Dorkrockrecords.) viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1731

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Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
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E. F. Elliott (Ed Elliott) Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett (Bill Gruggett) Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010. Update, December 2021 - This guitar showed up for sale in early December, in Japan, from seller "oisii-japan." I also must say, I've seen this guitar mentioned here on the forum before. I just never updated the info about it. It appears to be an original neck with a custom double cutaway body. It also has a Moseley Vibrato Tailpiece on it and wooden pickup covers.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

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In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

12 Mosrite Partsrites (11 assembled by Ed Elliott)
(most without confirmed numbers)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
18 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail with a partly known number,
7 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models With Known Numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe with an unknown number,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail that may have been a Deluxe,
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
7 Mosrites with unknown numbers.

41 Mosrites, in Total.

We're up to 60 or 61 instruments, 23 with unknown numbers (1 being partly known.)

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.


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