Brass Rail Registry?

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby sumlin » Tue May 08, 2018 6:54 am

Bumping this in light of recent serial registry posts on the Stereo and Bluesbenders...
Brass Rail #43
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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Tue May 08, 2018 9:01 pm

Deluxe #7 is on eBay again and the neck is either sunburst or natural on the back. It's also a set neck model.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-Mosrite-B ... SwpDdVa3UC

My Deluxe #10 also has a set neck.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Fri May 11, 2018 4:41 pm

101Volts wrote:My Deluxe #10 also has a set neck.

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BTW, although Deluxe #10 has a set neck it looks as though it may have been drilled to be a bolt-on at first; either that or they inserted dowels into the neck to help keep it in place, I don't know. I think the former idea's more likely.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:05 am

I'm bumping this up because I found Deluxe #11. In light of what Adam mentioned earlier, that Brass Rails must be separated into different batches, I've changed the list; I've separated the deluxe models out of the others. I'm not sure what else to do at this point, or if I even should put all the deluxe models together. Sorry if this isn't quite correct yet.

Deluxe Models:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on EBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda

All other models:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
43 - Standard, Black - owned by me.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott - (was?) owned by forum member The Jester
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
80-something - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white - for sale on EBay 2014, has been refinished
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

Not known - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck
N/K - Prototype, Black with large scratchplate and angled neck pickup, full Moseley trem - in the Phil X Fretted Americana 2012 You Tube Special
N/K - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state
N/K - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. For sale on EBay 2009. Is this #22?
N/K - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa

and then there are 2 modern Gruggetts both owned by Expat Guitars that are serials 1 and 2 but have been built from new necks presumably.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670,)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 1,
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 2,
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10,
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:19 pm

Correction, and note, added to #43. No new instruments at this update.

Deluxe Models:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on EBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda

May have been a Deluxe at one point:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it, and a non original pickguard over this routing.

All other models:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott - (was?) owned by forum member The Jester
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
80-something - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white - for sale on EBay 2014, has been refinished
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

Not known - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck
N/K - Prototype, Black with large scratchplate and angled neck pickup, full Moseley trem - in the Phil X Fretted Americana 2012 You Tube Special
N/K - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state
N/K - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. For sale on EBay 2009. Is this #22?
N/K - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa

and then there are 2 modern Gruggetts both owned by Expat Guitars that are serials 1 and 2 but have been built from new necks presumably.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670,)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 1,
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 2,
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10,
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby olrocknroller » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:36 am

There is a photo on the 'net of Nokie playing one...whether it was his or not isn't given in the comments...
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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Sat May 02, 2020 6:14 pm

Notes to No. 49 (which has been moved to a "partsrite" section) and the "Prototype" in the Unknown Numbers section added; they may be the same guitar. Fretted Americana may have seen 49 on eBay in 2010, bought it, and put it up for sale. It's possible, since there are only 3 Brass Rails with a Moseley Vibrato. This is according to Ed Elliott, who assembled the 3 as partsrites.

Deluxe Models:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda

May have been a Deluxe at one point:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it, and a non original pickguard over this routing.

Partsrites:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale.

All other models:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
80-something - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white - for sale on EBay 2014, has been refinished
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

Not known - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck
N/K - "Prototype," Black with large scratchplate and angled neck pickup, full Moseley trem - in the Phil X Fretted Americana 2012 You Tube Special. This may be No 49. It's not a prototype, it's a partsrite that Ed Elliott put together. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
N/K - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state
N/K - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. For sale on EBay 2009. Is this #22?
N/K - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa

and then there are 2 modern Gruggetts both owned by Expat Guitars that are serials 1 and 2 but have been built from new necks presumably.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670,)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 1,
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 2,
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10,
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Sun May 03, 2020 8:39 am

No. 69 (White) added. I've also rearranged the list.

Deluxe Models - 6:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda

May have been a Deluxe at one point - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it, and a non original pickguard over this routing.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

Mosrite and Gospel Models - 12:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
80-something - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white - for sale on EBay 2014, has been refinished
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Partsrites - 1:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale.

Ed Elliott assembled 3 Partsrites just like this one.

No Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars

Unknown:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck
? - "Prototype," Black with large scratchplate and angled neck pickup, full Moseley trem - in the Phil X Fretted Americana 2012 You Tube Special. This may be No 49. It's not a prototype, it's a partsrite that Ed Elliott put together. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670,)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 1,
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 2,
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10,
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Fri May 15, 2020 5:38 pm

No new models have surfaced yet, this update's mostly to make the list easier to navigate.

Deluxe Models - 6:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda

May have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it, and a non original pickguard over this routing.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

Mosrite and Gospel Models - 12:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
80-something - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white - for sale on EBay 2014, has been refinished
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Partsrites - 1:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale.

Ed Elliott assembled 3 Partsrites just like this one.

No Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars

Unknown:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck
? - "Prototype," Black with large scratchplate and angled neck pickup, full Moseley vibrato - Was in the Phil X Fretted Americana 2012 You Tube Special. This may be No 49. Whether or not it is, it's not a prototype; it's a partsrite that Ed Elliott put together in 1978, if I remember right. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670,)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 1,
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 2,
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10,
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Fri May 15, 2020 7:22 pm

Second update today, since I remembered about one that Ed Elliott assembled. It's not a Mosrite instrument, but it does deserve its spot on the list.

Deluxe Models - 6:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda

May have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it, and a non original pickguard over this routing.

E. F. Elliott Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

Mosrite and Gospel Models - 12:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
80-something - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white - for sale on EBay 2014, has been refinished
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Partsrites - 1:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale.

Ed Elliott assembled 3 Partsrites just like this one. I'm not going to put those in the list yet, since I don't know what color their finishes are.

No Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars

Unknown - 5:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck
? - "Prototype," Black with large scratchplate and angled neck pickup, full Moseley vibrato - Was in the Phil X Fretted Americana 2012 You Tube Special. This may be No 49. Whether or not it is, it's not a prototype; it's a partsrite that Ed Elliott put together in 1978, if I remember right. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670,)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 1,
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 2,
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10,
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.


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