Mosrite Brass Rail Models Serial Numbers List (1976 - 1978, Les Paul-ish Shape) (Brass Rail Registry?)

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Sat May 16, 2020 5:39 am

No updates this time, except a total of guitars at the bottom.

Deluxe Models - 6:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda

May have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it, and a non original pickguard over this routing.

E. F. Elliott Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

Mosrite and Gospel Models - 12:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
80-something - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white - for sale on EBay 2014, has been refinished
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Partsrites - 1:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale.

Ed Elliott assembled 3 Partsrites just like this one. I'm not going to put those in the list yet, since I don't know what color their finishes are.

No Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars

Unknown - 5:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck
? - "Prototype," Black with large scratchplate and angled neck pickup, full Moseley vibrato - Was in the Phil X Fretted Americana 2012 You Tube Special. This may be No 49. Whether or not it is, it's not a prototype; it's a partsrite that Ed Elliott put together in 1978, if I remember right. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa

In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar;
8 Gruggett Guitars;
26 or 27 Mosrite guitars (5 with unknown numbers.)

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Mon May 25, 2020 10:50 am

Some re organizing has been done, and one unknown guitar has been added.

E. F. Elliott Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

Mosrite Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 6:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda

May have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over this routing.

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric Models - 12:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white - for sale on EBay 2014, has been refinished
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs.

Partsrites - 1:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale, but that's not confirmed here. As such, I have the Fretted Americana instrument in the Unknown # section below.

No Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Unknown - 5:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html

Unknown Partsrites - 3:

? - "Prototype," Black with large scratchplate and angled neck pickup, full Moseley vibrato - Was in the Phil X Fretted Americana 2012 You Tube Special. This may be No 49. Whether or not it is, it's not a prototype; it's a partsrite that Ed Elliott put together in 1978, if I remember right. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
?? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
?? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.

In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic;
12 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers,
6 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models,
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
5 Mosrites with unknown numbers,
3 Mosrite Partsrites assembled by Ed Elliott (with unknown numbers, one which may be 49.)

30 Total.

We're up to 37 or 38 instruments, 8 with unknown numbers.

Gosh, I had the numbers wrong earlier, even though I added 3 instruments in this update.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Mon May 25, 2020 2:28 pm

1 more instrument added; a Brass Rail Bass, which I had forgotten about.

Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:

E. F. Elliott Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

Mosrite Section:

Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 6:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda

May have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over this routing.

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 12:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white - for sale on EBay 2014, has been refinished
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs.

Partsrites - 1:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale, but that's not confirmed here. As such, I have the Fretted Americana instrument in the Unknown # section below.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 5:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html

Partsrite Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 3:

? - Black. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, and a Moseley Vibrato. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. This guitar may be No 49. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's not a prototype; it's a Partsrite that Ed Elliott put together in 1978, if I remember right. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.

In total we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

3 Mosrite Partsrites assembled by Ed Elliott (with unconfirmed numbers, one which may be # 49.)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
12 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers,
6 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models,
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
5 Mosrites with unknown numbers,

30 Total.

We're up to 39 or 40 instruments, 10 with unknown numbers.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:17 pm

Note to 102 added, and I made the list a bit easier to navigate.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

E. F. Elliott Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 6:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda

May have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over this routing.

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 12:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white (refin) - for sale on EBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs.

Partsrites - 1:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale, but that's not confirmed here. As such, I have the Fretted Americana instrument in the Unknown # section below.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 5:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html

Partsrite Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 3:

? - Black. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, and a Moseley Vibrato. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. This guitar may be No 49. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's not a prototype; it's a Partsrite that Ed Elliott put together in 1978, if I remember right. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

3 Mosrite Partsrites assembled by Ed Elliott (with unconfirmed numbers, one which may be # 49.)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
12 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers,
6 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models,
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
5 Mosrites with unknown numbers,

30 Total.

We're up to 39 or 40 instruments, 10 with unknown numbers.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:37 pm

1 Mosrite Deluxe added, but without its number, so I'm not sure if it's already on the list or not.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

E. F. Elliott Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 6:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda

May have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over this routing.

Unknown Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

? - Black. Owned by Forum Member HifiHellcat, who hasn't posted beyond his introduction post:
viewtopic.php?p=66715

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 12:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white (refin) - for sale on EBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs.

Partsrites - 1:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale, but that's not confirmed here. As such, I have the Fretted Americana instrument in the Unknown # section below.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 5:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html

Partsrite Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 3:

? - Black. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, and a Moseley Vibrato. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. This guitar may be No 49. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's not a prototype; it's a Partsrite that Ed Elliott put together in 1978, if I remember right. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

3 Mosrite Partsrites assembled by Ed Elliott (with unconfirmed numbers, one which may be # 49.)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
12 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers,
6 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models With Known Numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe with an unknown number,
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
5 Mosrites with unknown numbers,

31 Total.

We're up to 40 or 41 instruments, 11 with unknown numbers.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:42 am

8 more Partsrites added without numbers.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

E. F. Elliott Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 6:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda

May have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over this routing.

Unknown Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

? - Black. Owned by Forum Member HifiHellcat, who hasn't posted beyond his introduction post:
viewtopic.php?p=66715

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 12:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white (refin) - for sale on EBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs.

Partsrites - 1:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale, but that's not confirmed here. As such, I have the Fretted Americana instrument in the Unknown # section below.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 5:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html

Partsrite Guitars (Assembled by Ed Elliott) with Unknown Numbers - 11:

? - Black. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, and a Moseley Vibrato. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. This guitar may be No 49. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's not a prototype; it's a Partsrite that Ed Elliott put together in 1978, if I remember right. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.

Quote from Ed: "Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen, I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine."

Source for Ed's Quote: Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Facebook Group, comments section of a question where he asked who owns Brass Rail models.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

11 Mosrite Partsrites assembled by Ed Elliott (with unconfirmed numbers, one which may be # 49.)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
12 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers,
6 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models With Known Numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe with an unknown number,
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
5 Mosrites with unknown numbers,

31 Total.

We're up to 40 or 41 instruments, 19 with unknown numbers.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:56 pm

Small change to the list; 38 is not a Deluxe model, I'm not sure how I made that mistake.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

E. F. Elliott Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 5:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210

May or may not have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over this routing.

Unknown Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

? - Black. Owned by Forum Member HifiHellcat, who hasn't posted beyond his introduction post:
viewtopic.php?p=66715

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 13:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda, who's in Germany - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5747&p=59331#p59331
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white (refin) - for sale on EBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs.

Note: Ed Elliott worked on the last 20 Brass Rails in 1978.

Partsrites - 1:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale, but that's not confirmed here. As such, I have the Fretted Americana instrument in the Unknown # section below.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 5:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html

Partsrite Guitars (Assembled by Ed Elliott) with Unknown Numbers - 11:

? - Black. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, and a Moseley Vibrato. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. This guitar may be No 49. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's not a prototype; it's a Partsrite that Ed Elliott put together in 1978, if I remember right. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.

Quote from Ed: "Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen, I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine."

Source for Ed's Quote: Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Facebook Group, comments section of a question where he asked who owns Brass Rail models.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

11 Mosrite Partsrites assembled by Ed Elliott (with unconfirmed numbers, one which may be # 49.)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
13 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers,
5 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models With Known Numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe with an unknown number,
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
5 Mosrites with unknown numbers,

31 Total.

We're up to 40 or 41 instruments, 19 with unknown numbers.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:48 am

One guitar added.

65 - Joey Buoni's. Red / Burgundy, Brass Pickguard. Has a Moseley Vibrato on it. Pic saved.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

E. F. Elliott Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 5:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210

May or may not have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over this routing.

Unknown Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

? - Black. Owned by Forum Member HifiHellcat, who hasn't posted beyond his introduction post:
viewtopic.php?p=66715

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 14:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda, who's in Germany - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5747&p=59331#p59331
65 - Burgundy. Joey Buoni's. Brass Pickguard. Has a Moseley Vibrato on it. According to Joey, this was bought by his great grandfather in the 70s, and as far as he's aware, the Vibrato is original to the guitar. Pic saved.
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white (refin) - for sale on EBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs.

Note: Ed Elliott worked on the last 20 Brass Rails in 1978.

Partsrites - 1:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale, but that's not confirmed here. As such, I have the Fretted Americana instrument in the Unknown # section below.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 5:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html

Partsrite Guitars (Assembled by Ed Elliott) with Unknown Numbers - 11:

? - Black. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, and a Moseley Vibrato. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. This guitar may be No 49. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's not a prototype; it's a Partsrite that Ed Elliott put together in 1978, if I remember right. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.

Quote from Ed: "Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen, I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine."

Source for Ed's Quote: Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Facebook Group, comments section of a question where he asked who owns Brass Rail models.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

11 Mosrite Partsrites assembled by Ed Elliott (with unconfirmed numbers, one which may be # 49.)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
14 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers, (1 added this update.)
5 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models With Known Numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe with an unknown number,
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
5 Mosrites with unknown numbers,

32 Total.

We're up to 41 or 42 instruments, 19 with unknown numbers.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:29 pm

One guitar added; # 76. However, this is just from a mention from Jim Diamond, who said on Facebook: "One of my regrets is selling my Brass Rail. It had a stop tailpiece but had stereo outputs and built in distortion. It was #76." This is in contrast to another model on the list, a Gospel Celebrity, which is also "76." I'm not sure how to account for that.

In other words, I think we may have found another Deluxe model.

Previous Update:

65 - Joey Buoni's. Red / Burgundy, Brass Pickguard. Has a Moseley Vibrato on it. Pic saved.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

E. F. Elliott Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mosrite Section:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 5:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210

May or may not have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over this routing.

May or may not be a Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

76 - Formerly owned by Jim DIamond (who also owns a Blues Bender.) According to him on Facebook, "One of my regrets is selling my Brass Rail. It had a stop tailpiece but had stereo outputs and built in distortion. It was #76." This is in contrast to the Gospel Celebrity 76, though. Then again, Adam (Dorkrockrecords, Expat Guitars) has said here (early on, in this thread) that you can't just list Brass Rails by numbers. Perhaps this list will need re-organized at a later date.

Unknown Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

? - Black. Owned by Forum Member HifiHellcat, who hasn't posted beyond his introduction post:
viewtopic.php?p=66715

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 14:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda, who's in Germany - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5747&p=59331#p59331
65 - Burgundy. Joey Buoni's. Brass Pickguard. Has a Moseley Vibrato on it. According to Joey, this was bought by his great grandfather in the 70s, and as far as he's aware, the Vibrato is original to the guitar. Pic saved.
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white (refin) - for sale on EBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs.

Note: Ed Elliott worked on the last 20 Brass Rails in 1978.

Partsrites - 1:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley trem, assembled by E.Elliott in 1978 if I remember right. (Was?) owned by forum member The Jester. It was for sale on eBay in late 2009 and/or early 2010, and Fretted Americana may have bought it for resale, but that's not confirmed here. As such, I have the Fretted Americana instrument in the Unknown # section below.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 5:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html

Partsrite Guitars (Assembled by Ed Elliott) with Unknown Numbers - 11:

? - Black. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, and a Moseley Vibrato. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. This guitar may be No 49. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's not a prototype; it's a Partsrite that Ed Elliott put together in 1978, if I remember right. Ed put 3 Brass Rails together with a Moseley vibrato.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.

Quote from Ed: "Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen, I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine."

Source for Ed's Quote: Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Facebook Group, comments section of a question where he asked who owns Brass Rail models.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

11 Mosrite Partsrites assembled by Ed Elliott (with unconfirmed numbers, one which may be # 49.)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
14 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers,
5 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models With Known Numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe with an unknown number,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail that may have been a Deluxe (Added this update.)
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
5 Mosrites with unknown numbers,

33 Total.

We're up to 50 or 51 instruments, 19 with unknown numbers. (My math was off, in the previous update. Maybe I forgot to update this section properly then.)

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Brass Rail Registry?

Postby 101Volts » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:32 am

I moved Partsrite 49 from the Mosrite section, to the Ed Elliott section. I also added information that it is not the guitar that Fretted Americana had/has. I'm not sure if Fretted Americana sold theirs yet, or not.

Previous Update:

One guitar added; # 76. However, this is just from a mention from Jim Diamond, who said on Facebook: "One of my regrets is selling my Brass Rail. It had a stop tailpiece but had stereo outputs and built in distortion. It was #76." This is in contrast to another model on the list, a Gospel Celebrity, which is also "76." I'm not sure how to account for that.

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Instruments Built by Luthiers Close to Mosrite Section:
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E. F. Elliott Instruments - 1:

? - Built for Michael Gnapp in the 1970s. Ed posted about this on Facebook on March 9, 2020.

Gruggett Instruments - 8:

1: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
2: Owned by dorkrockrecords.
26 - Gruggett Custom, sunburst with white binding - owned by Expat Gtrs
35? - Gruggett Custom - constructed with unique body shape for Expat Gtrs in 2010.
48 - Gruggett Custom, black with chequered binding - owned by Elisha Weisner
No serial - Gruggett Custom, surfburst - built 2012 (from old BR neck?), owned by Expat Gtrs
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, natural ash - built in 1976 for Lonnie Hyde
No serial - Gruggett Doubleneck, black with white binding - built in 1983 for Waco Shan

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Mosrite Section:
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Acoustics - 1

D1 - Dolly Parton Acoustic

Brass Rail Bass Guitars - 1

? - Either a Green or slightly Yellow (fading to black) burst. Its body's shaped like a Mosrite take on a Rickenbacker 4001. I saved a photo of it. It's mentioned in these threads:

Thread 1:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6521

Thread 2:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6524

Thread 3, Adam (Dorkrockrecords') Topic after he bought it:

http://www.mosriteforum.com/forum/viewt ... f=6&t=6543

Brass Rail Deluxe Models - 5:

3 - Black - sold by a mosriteforum member
5 - Black, commemorative plaque on back of body - for sale by Expat Guitars
7 - Black, commemorative plaque - for sale on eBay in Michigan 2014
10 - Black - owned by Austin (101Volts)
11 - Black - Owned by forum member Eric L. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7210

May or may not have been a Deluxe once - 1:

43 - Standard, Black - owned by Sumlin. Doesn't have Deluxe electronics, and it had a 1 vol. 1 tone setup when he bought it. It also had much crude routing done to it from the front of the guitar, and there was a non original pickguard over this routing.

May or may not be a Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

76 - Formerly owned by Jim Diamond (who also owns a Blues Bender.) According to him on Facebook, "One of my regrets is selling my Brass Rail. It had a stop tailpiece but had stereo outputs and built in distortion. It was #76." This is in contrast to the Gospel Celebrity 76, though. Then again, Adam (Dorkrockrecords, Expat Guitars) has said here (early on, in this thread) that you can't just list Brass Rails by numbers. Perhaps this list will need re-organized at a later date.

Unknown Deluxe - 1 Guitar:

? - Black. Owned by Forum Member HifiHellcat, who hasn't posted beyond his introduction post:
viewtopic.php?p=66715

Mosrite and (Mosrite) Gospel, Electric 6 String Models - 14:

6 - Standard, Greenburst - owned by Expat Gtrs
8 - Standard, Cherryburst w/white binding - owned by Expat gtrs
22 - no more info other than it was for sale in 2010 and is mentioned as a 'Gene Moles Custom' - is this the BR neck on Celebrity body?
24 - Standard, Black - commemorative plaque, owned by forum member dtribby
38 - Black - owned by forum member coanda, who's in Germany - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5747&p=59331#p59331
65 - Burgundy. Joey Buoni's. Brass Pickguard. Has a Moseley Vibrato on it. According to Joey, this was bought by his great grandfather in the 70s, and as far as he's aware, the Vibrato is original to the guitar. Pic saved.
69 - White. Formerly owned by Steve Young.
74 - Standard, Red - sold on EBay in 2008
76 - Gospel (Celebrity shape), Honeyburst - built for Rev Beatty, owned by Expat Gtrs
8? - Standard, dark red - owned by forum member Beatnikbandit
82 - Standard, off-white - sold by Expat Gtrs in 2009
84 - Standard, off-white - owned by Expat Gtrs
102 - Standard, off-white (refin) - for sale on EBay 2014. Currently owned by Scott Gammon.
125 - Standard, sunburst - owned by Expat Gtrs.

Note: Ed Elliott worked on the last 20 Brass Rails in 1978.

Guitars Without Serial Numbers - 2:

No serial - Wenge, 3 pickup - made for Mark Moseley, owned by Expat Guitars.
No serial - Wenge, 2 pickup - owned by Expat Guitars.

Guitars with Unknown Numbers - 5:

? - Standard, Black - owned by Efrim Menuck.
? - Standard, Black - shown as for sale in Michael Mark's Mosrite website in unfinished (and unfretted?) state.
? - Gene Moles Custom - Celebrity body and BR neck. Was for sale on eBay in 2009. Is this #22?
? - Standard, Black, white pickguard - pictured online but looks like it may not be a Brass Rail, possibly a Bluesbender or SM with changed hardware. Full Moseley trem. Owned by M. Ayukawa.
? - Finish was stripped. Has a brass control knobs guard. Once owned by (maybe still owned by) Michael Marks. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 63769.html

Partsrite Guitars (Assembled by Ed Elliott) with Unknown Numbers - 11:

49 - Standard, Black - with Moseley vibrato, and 2 vol and 2 tone knobs; one for each pup. Was owned by forum member The Jester. He had it for sale on eBay UK in late 2009 and/or March 2010. I saved the listing and photos.
? - Black - Fretted Americana had this one. Has a large scratchplate, an angled neck pickup, a Moseley Vibrato, and one volume and one tone knob. Was in the 2012 Phil X Fretted Americana Mosrite Special Part II. It was advertised as a prototype, but it's a Partsrite that Ed put together in 1978.
? - Black - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite, with Moseley Vibrato.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.
? - ? - Ed Elliott assembled Partsrite.

Quote from Ed: "Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen, I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine."

Source for Ed's Quote: Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Facebook Group, comments section of a question where he asked who owns Brass Rail models.

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In total, we have:

1 E. F. Elliott Guitar,
8 Gruggett Guitars.

9 Non Mosrite Guitars Total.

11 Mosrite Partsrites assembled by Ed Elliott (most without confirmed numbers)

Mosrite and Mosrite Gospel models:

1 Mosrite Acoustic,
1 Mosrite Bass,
14 Mosrite Brass Rails with known numbers,
5 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe Models With Known Numbers,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail Deluxe with an unknown number,
1 Mosrite Brass Rail that may have been a Deluxe (Added this update.)
1 Mosrite which may have been a Deluxe, but isn't one now,
2 Mosrite Brass Rails with no numbers,
5 Mosrites with unknown numbers,

33 Total.

We're up to 50 or 51 instruments, 19 with unknown numbers.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670.)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Bodies: 2.
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10.
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.


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