Mosrite S.M. Model Serial Numbers Compilation

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Re: Mosrite S.M. Model Serial Numbers Compilation

Postby 101Volts » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:29 pm

Thanks. I noticed that the S.M. model has the same cutout at the body as the Brass Rail does, but my Blues Bender bodies (which are from 73 or so) aren't cut quite the same. How is the roundness on the S.M. model? Is it a gentle bevel? I think I can see it on the top of the instrument, but it's a bit difficult to tell.

Also, I wonder; are the S.M. models a result of using up Brass Rail bodies that did not have a German Carve? I should really ask Ed Elliott about this.

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Postby VincentW » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:21 pm

Yes, the front and back have a gentle bevel. I tried to make some photos:

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Postby 101Volts » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:20 pm

Thanks again. I've saved the photos for reference. I've also found No 06.

14LOU - Mentioned here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1046&start=10

No. 06 - Black, with Humbuckers. Was owned by Michael Marks for a while, I'm not sure if he still has it: http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 31539.html

No. 08 - Black Body, Sunburst Neck & Headstock, Stop Tailpiece. Owned by forum member VincentW.

No 10 - Black with Sunburst Headstock - Found at http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... rlist.html (search "Bluesbender" and it should mistakenly show up.) Picture: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... lackey.jpg

16 - Natural finish, Black Pickguard, and Black electronics cavity plate.

No ???, White with Black or Tortoiseshell Pickguard. Showed up on eBay in mid 2017. Seems to be a prototype of only 3 or 4. Says "Semie Moseley" on the headstock.

No ???, Black, Ed Elliott Partsrite assembled in 1978. Seemingly not with a sunburst headstock. Has or had a Moseley Vibrato (at least at time of the photo) - http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... rlist.html (search "Bluesbender" and it should mistakenly show up underneath No. 10 .) Pic: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... yukawa.jpg

No ???, Sunburst, was purchased by a member here without a finish around 2010 - 2012; he finished it in a Sunburst.

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Postby 101Volts » Sun May 03, 2020 12:01 pm

No updates to the list, but I asked Ed Elliott about these models a bit. He told me, the "S.M. (Semie Moseley)" name for these guitars isn't really official. I'm not sure what its name is (if it has one,) but Semie wanted to make something that was simple and easy to assemble.

And again, I've read there are 80 - 84 of these S.M. Models in the world. Right now, we have 8 listed: 5 of them listed with numbers, and 3 without.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670,)
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Re: Mosrite S.M. Model Serial Numbers Compilation

Postby 101Volts » Fri May 15, 2020 5:53 pm

No new numbers this update (sadly.) This is just to make the list more compact and organized.

Known # Section - 5 Guitars:

14LOU - Mentioned here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1046&start=10
No. 06 - Black, with Humbuckers. Was owned by Michael Marks for a while, I'm not sure if he still has it: http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 31539.html
No. 08 - Black Body, Sunburst Neck & Headstock, Stop Tailpiece. Owned by forum member VincentW.
No 10 - Black with Sunburst Headstock - Found at http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... rlist.html (search "Bluesbender" and it should mistakenly show up.) Picture: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... lackey.jpg
16 - Natural finish, Black Pickguard, and Black electronics cavity plate.

Unknown # Section - 3 Guitars:

No ???, White with Black or Tortoiseshell Pickguard. Showed up on eBay in mid 2017. Seems to be a prototype of only 3 or 4. Says "Semie Moseley" on the headstock.
No ???, Black, Ed Elliott Partsrite assembled in 1978. Seemingly not with a sunburst headstock. Has or had a Moseley Vibrato (at least at time of the photo) - http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... rlist.html (search "Bluesbender" and it should mistakenly show up underneath No. 10 .) Pic: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... yukawa.jpg
No ???, Sunburst. Was purchased by a member here without a finish around 2010 - 2012, then he finished it in a Sunburst.

8 Guitars in total. Supposedly, only 84 of these guitars exist (including 4 Moseley models,) and that may exclude partsrites that weren't assembled. That may include the Sunburst model in the unknown # section.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670,)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 1,
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 2,
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10,
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Mosrite S.M. Model Serial Numbers Compilation

Postby 101Volts » Mon May 25, 2020 10:33 am

One guitar added without a number.

Known # Section - 5 Guitars:

14LOU - Mentioned here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1046&start=10
No. 06 - Black, with Humbuckers. Was owned by Michael Marks for a while, I'm not sure if he still has it: http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 31539.html
No. 08 - Black Body, Sunburst Neck & Headstock, Stop Tailpiece. Owned by forum member VincentW.
No 10 - Black with Sunburst Headstock - Found at http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... rlist.html (search "Bluesbender" and it should mistakenly show up.) Picture: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... lackey.jpg
16 - Natural finish, Black Pickguard, and Black electronics cavity plate.

No # Section - 1 Guitar

No Number, Black - Once owned by Michael Marks. Has 2 Mosrite Humbuckers. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 35039.html

Unknown # Section - 3 Guitars:

No ???, White with Black or Tortoiseshell Pickguard. Showed up on eBay in mid 2017. Seems to be a prototype of only 3 or 4. Says "Semie Moseley" on the headstock.
No ???, Black, Ed Elliott Partsrite assembled in 1978. Seemingly not with a sunburst headstock. Has or had a Moseley Vibrato (at least at time of the photo) - http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... rlist.html (search "Bluesbender" and it should mistakenly show up underneath No. 10 .) Pic: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... yukawa.jpg
No ???, Sunburst. Was purchased by a member here without a finish around 2010 - 2012, then he finished it in a Sunburst.

9 Guitars in total. Supposedly, only 84 of these guitars exist (including 4 Moseley models,) and that may exclude partsrites that weren't assembled initially (such as the Sunburst in the unknown # section.)

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670,)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 1,
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 2,
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10,
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Mosrite S.M. Model Serial Numbers Compilation

Postby 101Volts » Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:03 pm

New note added; Ed Elliott bought some of the S.M. bodies in 1978.

Ed Elliott:
"Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen,
I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine." - Post from Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Page, under his question about who owns Mosrite Brass Rail Models; dated June 1, 2020.

Known # Section - 5 Guitars:

14LOU - Mentioned here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1046&start=10
No. 06 - Black, with Humbuckers. Was owned by Michael Marks for a while, I'm not sure if he still has it: http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 31539.html
No. 08 - Black Body, Sunburst Neck & Headstock, Stop Tailpiece. Owned by forum member VincentW.
No 10 - Black with Sunburst Headstock - Found at http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... rlist.html (search "Bluesbender" and it should mistakenly show up.) Picture: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... lackey.jpg
16 - Natural finish, Black Pickguard, and Black electronics cavity plate.

No # Section - 1 Guitar

No Number, Black - Once owned by Michael Marks. Has 2 Mosrite Humbuckers. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 35039.html

Unknown # Section - 3 Guitars:

No ???, White with Black or Tortoiseshell Pickguard. Showed up on eBay in mid 2017. Seems to be a prototype of only 3 or 4. Says "Semie Moseley" on the headstock.
No ???, Black, Ed Elliott Partsrite assembled in 1978. Seemingly not with a sunburst headstock. Has or had a Moseley Vibrato (at least at time of the photo) - http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... rlist.html (search "Bluesbender" and it should mistakenly show up underneath No. 10 .) Pic: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... yukawa.jpg
No ???, Sunburst. Was purchased by a member here without a finish around 2010 - 2012, then he finished it in a Sunburst.

Ed Elliott Mosrite Partsrite Section - 0 Guitars Listed

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9 Guitars in total. Supposedly, only 84 of these guitars exist (including 4 Moseley models,) and that may exclude partsrites that weren't assembled initially (such as the Sunburst in the unknown # section.) I know that Ed Elliott had "about 20 bodies," but I don't know if that's out of the 84 guitars already mentioned, or if there are an additional 20 bodies which weren't finished at Mosrite.

- Austin
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1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 2,
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Postby 101Volts » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:05 pm

New note to the Ed Elliott Partsrite, which I've moved to a new section.

Ed Elliott:
"Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen,
I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine." - Post from Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Page, under his question about who owns Mosrite Brass Rail Models; dated June 1, 2020.

Known # Section - 5 Guitars:

14LOU - Mentioned here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1046&start=10
No. 06 - Black, with Humbuckers. Was owned by Michael Marks for a while, I'm not sure if he still has it: http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 31539.html
No. 08 - Black Body, Sunburst Neck & Headstock, Stop Tailpiece. Owned by forum member VincentW.
No 10 - Black with Sunburst Headstock - Found at http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... rlist.html (search "Bluesbender" and it should mistakenly show up.) Picture: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... lackey.jpg
16 - Natural finish, Black Pickguard, and Black electronics cavity plate. Owned by Adam Tober (dorkrockrecords.) https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=101 ... 1330780677

No # Section - 1 Guitar

No Number, Black - Once owned by Michael Marks. Has 2 Mosrite Humbuckers. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 35039.html

Unknown # Section - 2 Guitars:

No ???, White with Black or Tortoiseshell Pickguard. Showed up on eBay in mid 2017. Seems to be a prototype of only 3 or 4. Says "Semie Moseley" on the headstock.
No ???, Sunburst. Was purchased by a member here without a finish around 2010 - 2012, then he finished it in a Sunburst.

Ed Elliott Mosrite Partsrite Section - 1 Guitars Listed

???, Black, Set Neck Ed Elliott Partsrite assembled in 1978 with Moseley Vibrato. Black Headstock. Update, June 8 2020 - Sold later as body and neck due to the neck becoming twisted. (I got that info from an archived eBay listing at Worthpoint.)

Quote from Ed Elliott about this instrument: "hey Austin, that guitar use to belong to me, something I put together and played for a while, I have a photo of me and that guitar at a show I played at Six Flags Magic Mountain theme park in southern California in 1979, it was put together from that stuff I bought from Semie, that's a 350 pickguard I modified, it also had a Moseley tremelo, mainly because I had a box full of them."

Search "Unknown" and it should show up at the bottom, just after the listing for S.M. No. 10 which is also "Unknown." http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... rlist.html

Direct Link to Pic: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... yukawa.jpg

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9 Guitars in total. Supposedly, only 84 of these guitars exist (including 4 Moseley models,) and that may exclude partsrites that weren't assembled initially (such as the Sunburst in the unknown # section.) I know that Ed Elliott had "about 20 bodies," but I don't know if that's out of the 84 guitars already mentioned, or if there are an additional 20 bodies which weren't finished at Mosrite.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670,)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 1,
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 2,
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10,
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Mosrite S.M. Model Serial Numbers Compilation

Postby 101Volts » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:00 pm

Update to the unknown Sunburst model.

Quote from Ed Elliott about S.M. Models:
"Me and my dad in 1978 bought from Semie 11 Brassrail partsrites, there was at least 3 black ones, about 20 SM bodies and necks, boxes of parts and all the equipment out of the paint room. At the time I was restoring a double cutaway Les Paul special for Artie Niesen,
I really liked those guitars, I used it for a pattern to reshape most of the SM bodies, so if anyone has a Mosrite shaped like a Les Paul Special, its one of mine." - Post from Ed Elliott's "We Love Mosrite Guitars" Page, under his question about who owns Mosrite Brass Rail Models; dated June 1, 2020.

Known # Section - 5 Guitars:

14LOU - Mentioned here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1046&start=10
No. 06 - Black, with Humbuckers. Was owned by Michael Marks for a while, I'm not sure if he still has it: http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 31539.html
No. 08 - Black Body, Sunburst Neck & Headstock, Stop Tailpiece. Owned by forum member VincentW.
No 10 - Black with Sunburst Headstock - Found at http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... rlist.html (search "Bluesbender" and it should mistakenly show up.) Picture: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... lackey.jpg
16 - Natural finish, Black Pickguard, and Black electronics cavity plate. Owned by Adam Tober (dorkrockrecords.) https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=101 ... 1330780677

No # Section - 1 Guitar

No Number, Black - Once owned by Michael Marks. Has 2 Mosrite Humbuckers. http://home.insightbb.com/~marksma/wsb/ ... 35039.html

Unknown # Section - 2 Guitars:

No ???, White with Black or Tortoiseshell Pickguard. Showed up on eBay in mid 2017. Seems to be a prototype of only 3 or 4. Says "Semie Moseley" on the headstock.
No ???, Sunburst. Pic saved. Was purchased by Forum Member "eltuce" in 2009 or 2010. Had no finish, then he finished it in a Sunburst. Also has a Moseley Vibrato Tailpiece. Thread discussing it before purchase: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=3265 Photo, after puchase: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3101&p=36052#p36052

Ed Elliott Mosrite Partsrite Section - 1 Guitars Listed

???, Black, Set Neck Ed Elliott Partsrite assembled in 1978 with Moseley Vibrato. Black Headstock. Update, June 8 2020 - Sold later as body and neck due to the neck becoming twisted. (I got that info from an archived eBay listing at Worthpoint.)

Quote from Ed Elliott about this instrument: "hey Austin, that guitar use to belong to me, something I put together and played for a while, I have a photo of me and that guitar at a show I played at Six Flags Magic Mountain theme park in southern California in 1979, it was put together from that stuff I bought from Semie, that's a 350 pickguard I modified, it also had a Moseley tremelo, mainly because I had a box full of them."

Search "Unknown" and it should show up at the bottom, just after the listing for S.M. No. 10 which is also "Unknown." http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... rlist.html

Direct Link to Pic: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mochizuki/kiyosh ... yukawa.jpg

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9 Guitars in total.

5 with known numbers,
2 with unknown numbers (1 Mosrite, 1 Moseley,)
1 with no number,
1 E. F. Elliott Partsrite.

Supposedly, only 84 of these guitars exist (including 4 Moseley models,) and that may exclude partsrites that weren't assembled initially (such as the Sunburst in the unknown # section.) I know that Ed Elliott had "about 20 bodies," but I don't know if that's out of the 84 guitars already mentioned, or if there are an additional 20 bodies which weren't finished at Mosrite.

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670,)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 1,
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 2,
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10,
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.

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Re: Mosrite S.M. Model Serial Numbers Compilation

Postby 101Volts » Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:57 am

101Volts wrote:No updates to the list, but I asked Ed Elliott about these models a bit. He told me, the "S.M. (Semie Moseley)" name for these guitars isn't really official. I'm not sure what its name is (if it has one,) but Semie wanted to make something that was simple and easy to assemble.

And again, I've read there are 80 - 84 of these S.M. Models in the world. Right now, we have 8 listed: 5 of them listed with numbers, and 3 without.

- Austin


I should have just copied and pasted what Ed said on the Facebook post.

Me: "How did the 1977 Mosrite S.M. model come about? They appear to me as though they're a case of Mosrite using up Brass Rail bodies, is this the case? Also, were Brass Rail Bodies made out of Wenge?"

Ed: "Hey Austin, The SM was something Semie wanted to build that would be economic for the consumer, and fast and easy to build. The prototypes didn't have the Mosrite logo, they had a "Semie Moseley" logo like on the late 80s Vibramutes. Semie decided to save his name logo for a more expensive model and go with his Mosrite logo. So SM is kind of a nickname. Don't sand down your black SM hoping to find beautiful wood, it ain't there, they're all basswood. The last Brassrails that were made out of Wenge and the SMs were built at the same time and share the same parts because that's all he had."

So, I'm guessing that most S. M. models are Basswood, but a few might be Wenge?

- Austin
1966 Ventures II (German Carved, B670,)
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 1,
1970s "Not a Blues Bender" Body 2,
1976 Brass Rail Deluxe #10,
2013 Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI.


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