pickup suggestions for a Filmore MK II

[MWaldorf]

I had the chance to hear Deke Dickerson play the prototype of the Hallmark II at his Guitar Geek Festival in 2010. Running the guitar into a big Marshall stack, Deke nailed Johnny Ramone's tone. So if that's what you're after, Bob can hook you up and make you very happy. I don't think you can do much better in that regard.

Like Matt said, I had 14K pickups in my guitar - wound that hot at my request - and in the end I didn't care for them. I swapped them out for M3 dual-tones, with which I've been very happy. I really like having the classic Mosrite tones as well as more standard single coil tones in the realm of P-90s or Fender pickups - the versatility is very useful to me.

Stock Hallmarks are very nice pickups - I'd call these a modern take on the Mosrite sound. Bob could say more, but I believe he specifically modified the design to address issues of feedback and microphonics, and successfully so. Dana's handwound pickups, and Ed Elliott's for that matter, are very true to the original Mosrites and sound it. I'd say M3's Dual Tones stand alone in providing Mosrite "plus" - i.e. the classic Mosrite tones plus more out of the same pickup. I can't speak to the other M3 designs as I haven't tried them, but it's safe to say Matt knows what he's talking about and if I were after a custom pickup for a Mosrite, he's the one I'd talk to.

Finally, I don't know the specifics of the guitar I posted. It's a photo I found somewhere along the way. In the 60s Mosrite made pickups with non adjustable poles fully enclosed in the cover for the Ventures Mark II/V and Celebrity III. I'd guess the pickups on this guitar are something similar.

[dubtrub]

You're not allowed to shamelessly peddle your products on a lot of other forums - like the Telecaster Forum (TDPRI).

You will notice this forum is unlike a lot of other forums and that is for a reason. When I set this forum up the intent was to promote any and everything Mosrite. Unlike Fender where every piece of the guitar is a dime a dozen, Mosrite parts are a scarce commodity, or, they were when the forum was started. Fortunately more vendors and individuals are now making replacement parts and this is helping to get vintage guitars back in operation plus helping others find parts to build their Mosrite styled guitars that they otherwise could not afford. That is why vendors are encouraged to offer their wares on this forum. I realize there are little 'tit for tat' games being played on this forum and so far it hasn't gotten too far out of hand. But, everyone is welcome to offer advice, parts or simply participate with Q&A, to further promote Mosrite or clones as long as it is done in a proper/polite manner. Nothing shameless about it.

[Dennisthe Menace]

You're not allowed to shamelessly peddle your products on a lot of other forums - like the Telecaster Forum (TDPRI).

You will notice this forum is unlike a lot of other forums and that is for a reason. When I set this forum up the intent was to promote any and everything Mosrite. Unlike Fender where every piece of the guitar is a dime a dozen, Mosrite parts are a scarce commodity, or, they were when the forum was started. Fortunately more vendors and individuals are now making replacement parts and this is helping to get vintage guitars back in operation plus helping others find parts to build their Mosrite styled guitars that they otherwise could not afford. That is why vendors are encouraged to offer their wares on this forum. I realize there are little 'tit for tat' games being played on this forum and so far it hasn't gotten too far out of hand. But, everyone is welcome to offer advice, parts or simply participate with Q&A, to further promote Mosrite or clones as long as it is done in a proper/polite manner. Nothing shameless about it.

Amen Brother

[raygun85]

I realize there are little 'tit for tat' games being played on this forum and so far it hasn't gotten too far out of hand.

That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid, before they get out of hand. Last month it may have got a little out of hand and I assume responsibility for my involvement. I've been trying to avoid it since then, at least I'm trying not to instigate it. Imagine if a rep from Coca-Cola and a rep from Pepsi were on a soda forum (does such a thing exist? ) and were constantly debating the differences between their respective soft-drinks and pitching them to the other forum members.

Over the past few years, I've noticed that many discussions that sprang from a scientific inquiry into the workings of Mosrite pickups have degenerated into sales pitches by a certain vendor which, in turn, led to debates on rather trivial aspects of pickup design (i.e. whether or not the ridges in the break-away magnets make a difference in tone) and the closing argument basically evolving into "it just does!", with no supporting data of a scientific nature - really not even an educated guess. That sounds to me, more like much of the hooey that is related to advertising and sales pitching in the musical instrument manufacturing business. (For instance, why are the ridges important on the back of the break-away magnets while pole-spacing is insignificant? While the magnetic field is even across the length of the magnet and redirected through the poles, with the magnetic flux density being concentrated at the top of the poles; but the pole being located off to the side of the string is unimportant? When most techs will tell you're wrong?)

I respect this certain vendor and what they do, I even own one of their guitars...it would just be nice to be able to openly discuss (and even debate) topics of this nature without the sales pitching and subsequent debate over trivial aspects (such as the one I mentioned above). Unfortunately, I feel that these debates really spring from trying to defend one's products, rather than seeking a higher knowledge and truth; or from trying to help less-informed forum members.

I'll descend back into the shadows for now, where I belong. Peace out.

[oipunkguy]

I respect all you guys, but I make the best pickups out of everyone, haha.

j/k guys. sorry, I had to.

[raygun85]

I respect all you guys, but I make the best pickups out of everyone, haha.

You ought to be making the best pickups, after picking apart so much of my brain!

[oipunkguy]

You ought to be making the best pickups, after picking apart so much of my brain!

true, but not before I picked apart my mosrite humbucker for you. hehe.

[raygun85]

true, but not before I picked apart my mosrite humbucker for you. hehe.

Since we seem to be starting a mutual appreciation society, I must give a little credit to Artie for providing some dead Mo'buckers for me to play with. And to Dennis for putting the fire under us to offer a Mosrite-style humbucker.

[raygun85]

true, but not before I picked apart my mosrite humbucker for you. hehe.

Since we seem to be starting a mutual appreciation society, I must give a little credit to Artie for providing some dead Mo'buckers for me to play with. And to Dennis for putting the fire under us to offer a Mosrite-style humbucker. Not to mention Aaron, for asking the right questions!

[doombuggy]

first let me say Im not trying to start any fights... lets keep it friendly here PLEASE I need information. This isnt a popularity test or whos better type deal. you will also have to forgive my ignorance as to who is with what company.

I have an 70 Gibson SG with 1990's 500t and 496r, w/ ceramic mags. I think the 500's usually are 14-15k and the 496 is 8-9k basically Im looking to get the same output or close with a Mosrite tone, Bob I like the Ramones and our music prob may sound sorta like that but that really not the sound Im trying to go for, more of a MC5/Stooges sound.

I appreciate all the suggestions