OK, how about the added nomenclature... by Semie & Dana MoseleyMWaldorf wrote:Since Fillmore isn't going to stop putting the "Mosrite of California" on the factory guitars, (and I don't see why they should) it seems to be a sensible delineation for her the guitars to say "Mosrite of California by Dana Moseley".
Who is the real Mosrite now?
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JimPage wrote:Hey, Mel--
That makes perfect sense, if she can legally do it.
I never could understand the logic or grammar, for that matter, of "Mosrite of Originals."
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Jim;
That is very typical syntax for a Japanese person saying "Mosrite Original", when translated from Japanese to English by a Japanese speaker.
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Thanks, Dan. Makes a bit more sense now.
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JimPage wrote:Hey, Mel--
That makes perfect sense, if she can legally do it.
I never could understand the logic or grammar, for that matter, of "Mosrite of Originals."
--Jim
Yeah...instead, maybe it should say, Made by Yusa...
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To take this one step further, perhaps the head stock should say:
MOSRITE:
Of California
By Dana & Semie Mosely, but NOT by Loretta Mosely.
MOSRITE:
Of California
By Dana & Semie Mosely, but NOT by Loretta Mosely.
In order of purchase:
1) Mosrite Ranger
2) V88
3) Stereo 350
4) Hallmark II in Johnny Blue
5) Danelectro '66
6) Celebrity III
7) Hallmark Gospel
8) Serenade
9) Eastwood 300
1) Mosrite Ranger
2) V88
3) Stereo 350
4) Hallmark II in Johnny Blue
5) Danelectro '66
6) Celebrity III
7) Hallmark Gospel
8) Serenade
9) Eastwood 300
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jfine wrote:Translating from one language to another can be a funny thing. "Mosrite of Originals" makes no sense at all, not in English anyway! A friend of mine has a Mosrite "of Classics", made by Fillmore in Japan. Very nice guitar, but it would be nice if the model designation was a little less goofy. There's got to be a word in Japanese for "of", don't you think? They could even eliminate the "of" and call them Mosrite Classics. It would certainly be nice if Dana was able to put her name on them.
On the Fillmore Japan website, they had a blog featuring handwritten letters from Dana, in English of course, with translations in Japanese. I got Google to translate the Japanese back into English, and it was often quite different from the original English of the handwritten letters. "Bakersfield", for instance, came out "Bekazu"! I wonder if "zu" means "field" in Japanese? Trade names get even weirder--"Mosrite" becomes "Mozeraitu", and "Vibramute" turns into something like "Vaibaramyutu". I guess the Star Trek universal translator is still a few years off...
Well, I think it's interesting, anyway!
Yep, I can second what Dockrockrecords has said - it's just a case of the Japanese fitting an english word into their alphabet according to their phonetic structure. In fact, there is no 'V' sound in Japanese, for example, so 'Vibramute' would actually be pronounced 'Baiburamyuto'. These words would be written in Japanese in Katakana. The Japanese word for 'of' is 'no'.
The useage of 'Of California' seems to be a bit fluid in Japan. In 2004/5, when I visited Fillmore a couple of times, they were only labelled with 'Of Classics' and the people there told me they were not allowed to use 'Of California'. They also said it helped to distinguish their guitars as Fillmore guitars as opposed to Kurokumo who were, at that time, using both 'Of California' and 'The Ventures' on their headstock. Now Kurokumo have stopped that too I notice.
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bakeoboy wrote:nice job Mel!
Dana is gonna try to have them change it.
Any word on if this is in the works or under consideration with the folks at Fillmore, Artie?
Best,
LT
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dana told me that she told Fillmore to change it...but no reply as of yet.
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Shizenda wrote:The Japanese word for 'of' is 'no'.
Just imagine if turned out "Mosrite no Original"
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I love itVeenture wrote:Shizenda wrote:The Japanese word for 'of' is 'no'.
Just imagine if turned out "Mosrite no Original"
make the Mos' of it, choose the 'rite stuff.
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